$ perl
MSDOS.echo("No, it didn't.");
__END__

"Vacuus" said:
I understand your reasoning in suggesting that I'm a human, however:
If I were human, why would I explain my logic in voting for the least-popular sysop candidate? It would be more efficient to have every human vote for one of there own.

$ perl
MSDOS.echo("Ergo, if Shingo were not human and Anarion were, it would make more sense for you to vote for Anarion, would it not?");
__END__

"Vacuus" said:
I know, not lynching sounds like a bad idea, but at this point, when there is no real evidence as to who is who, it is difficult to come up with a reasonable conclusion. After I see who is removed by humans next, I should have a better idea of who to lynch.

$ perl
MSDOS.echo("Correction: Not lynching only sounds like a bad idea to a non-human. :P");
__END__

"The Gemini" said:

"Pete" said:
So you say we should take blind shots and hope we hit? Riiight.

Well, it worked last time.

"Vacuus" said:
I realise that I'm making myself a bigger target - infact, I am counting on being able to draw atleast one human out.

$ perl
MSDOS.echo("The problem is, there are a million and one reasons for the humans to kill you, and only a couple of them are because Shingo is a human and doesn't like you talking bad about him. Even more likely is humans seeing you being suspicious of Shingo and killing you to make everyone else suspicious of Shingo. Or perhaps they just don't like how your logic sounds like it could discover them, so they kill you and get suspicion cast on Shingo as an added bonus. There are many possibilities.");
__END__

"Vacuus" said:
The thing is though, why would the humans vote for me, unless they suspected me of being the seer (which I am not, by the way), or Shingo himself is human?

$ perl
MSDOS.echo("Many reasons, as said above. Why wouldn't they vote for a user? They certainly wouldn't want to vote for one of their own, after all, and one user is as good as the next as long as they don't know their roles.");
__END__

"Vacuus" said:
Truly, if I do get killed in the night, it does, atleast to me, reason that I was getting 'close to the source', unless they suspect me of being the seer, at which point I can only hope the angel intervenes.

$ perl
MSDOS.echo("Or it says the humans decided to get rid of a potential threat while creating doubt among the users. Or you could be a human, and the bit about the angel is designed to distract his limited usefulness away from being used on a user. As you yourself said, there is far too much unknown here.");
__END__

Me("gets confused.")
Echo("Oh well, 2 days left, make your decisions now.")

"Zephyr" said:
Personally, the way both of you are ranting on and on leads me to believe that either you're both innocent, or that one of you is a very thorough baddie when it comes to "OMG IM INOCENT!!111" speeches.

Anywayz, with a "z", I'ma abstain. At least for now.

Echo(You could make a dice roll :P)

"E_net4" said:

Echo(You could make a dice roll :P)

alert("IIRC that went terribly last time.");

"Anonymous1337" said:

"E_net4" said:

Echo(You could make a dice roll :P)

alert("IIRC that went terribly last time.");

*Decision 1/2: sysop
Estimation dumps:
_Abstain: 1 - Nodes: Nuk
Anarion: 4 - Nodes: Anarion, Gemini, Vacuus, Zephyr
Shingo: 7 - Nodes: E_net4, Fnukk, Grim, MageKing, Murska, Pete, Shingo

Shingo selected, executing...

$ useradd -G sysop Shingo

Shingo added to group 'sysop'.
Group now contains maximum amount of users (1/1).

*Decision 2/2: removal
Estimation dumps:
_Abstain: 4 - Nodes: Anarion, Pete, Vacuus, Zephyr
Anarion: 2 - Nodes: Fnukk, Murska
Gemini: 4 - Nodes: E_net4, Grim, MageKing, Shingo
Grim: 1 - Nodes: Nuk
Vacuus: 1 - Nodes: Gemini

Gemini selected, executing...

$ rm Gemini

Warning: removing [HUMAN] node.
Checking prerequisites...OK
Checking privileges [MAJORITY]...OK
Gemini deleted.

First Human has been erased. How many more are there?

But first, he/they get a chance for vengeance. Human(s), PM me who you want to see dead. Further night actions: Screener, PM me someone to screen. Firewall, I already have your choice for this night, so that's okay.

I really, really want to ask of everyone to wait with ALL discussion until next day. Thank you. However, if something is wrong (a wrong vote or whatever), DO tell me. 12 players has to be about the limit of what I can handle. Honestly, I was surprised I found out that Gemini was Human in my notes .

The day is planned for Monday, either around noon or somewhere in the evening, depends on when I can get at my computer (read: wake up).

$ rm Anarion

! VIRUS found on inspection !
You might want to contact your local sysop about this.

Removing [VIRUS] node.
Checking prerequisites...OK
Checking privileges [HUMAN]...OK
Anarion deleted.

$abort.command(sleep)
command abort sucesfull
running command life check
command procedures are running... reaching conclusion
$run.animation(14, 3)
loading...
loaded, running

WARNING reaching critical levels in emotion simulation buffer
emotion described by emoticon.8
Anylysing possible responses...
response found
$say(by.Pete, "Sorry, coudnt resist 'emoticon.15'")

Sorry, coudnt resist

Echo("XD" + chr(10) + "It seems that Anarion is off, we have lost 2 special programs... And that is not fun!")

$run(situationanalyser.exe)
Situation... mediocre
$say(by.Pete, "Its not that bad when you think of it. I mean, if the humans would not delete the Recycler, he would become a human. And as for our virus here, with our luck he would probably decide to infect a user. And we still got two most important programs, the firewall and the screener. It could have went much worse.")

Its not that bad when you think of it. I mean, if the humans would not delete the Recycler, he would become a human. And as for our virus here, with our luck he would probably decide to infect a user. And we still got the two most important programs, the firewall and the screener. It could have went much worse.

$ perl
MSDOS.echo("Indeed, the situation could be much worse. The question is, however, who else is a Human? Is it Vacuus, who has definitely been acting suspiciously, though that doesn't guarantee he is human? Is it Zephyr, Pete, or Fnukk, who also abstained from voting? Zephyr has also acted suspiciously, though again this does not guarantee that he is human.

Thinking back to Vacuus, Gemini (the only known human) voted to delete Vacuus. Would a human vote to delete a human? Well, yes, actually, if it was an attempt to throw us off. But why, then, would the other humans abstain from voting? Well, again, to throw us off... if some vote and some abstain, there's not a cohesive link. Ah, but what else do they have in common?

They all (by they I'm referring to Gemini, Vacuus, and Zephyr, not Fnukk or Pete) voted for Anarion. This, to me, would have suggested that Anarion was human... except he was killed, and was not a human. Perhaps the humans had been in contact with him and tricked him into revealing his nature? Then, knowing that Shingo was not one of them, but knowing that if Anarion was deleted he could, before this happened, upload the virus into another user, killing two birds with one stone? Thus if he was elected sysop, we may have deleted him on the very suspicions I suggested above! Fnukk and Murska both voted for Anarion, and perhaps for some of these very reasons. That doesn't make them humans, that makes them cautious.

By why avoid voting for deletion? Wouldn't piling their votes on a user make their jobs easier? Ah, but consider. If their votes were all revealed to be on the same person, a person who turned out to be innocent, would that not cast suspicion upon them?

And another thing. Should we also suspect Anarion and Pete of being humans for abstaining? Should we suspect Fnukk for not voting Shingo? No, I say. Without knowing who or what to vote for, it makes sense to abstain at the very start of the game. With so little information, it also makes sense to vote for sysop or deletion almost at random.

Which leads me to my final point. There are a hundred and one reasons the humans could have had for doing just about anything... and while these reasons all lead to certain actions, normal users could perform those same actions for other reasons. However, certain combinations of activities do point to someone being a human. Thus do I declare my intention to delete Vacuus, due to his highly suspicious activities!");
MSDOS.vote( deletion => 'Vacuus' );

"MageKing17" said:
Zephyr has also acted suspiciously

"MageKing17" said:
Thinking back to Vacuus, Gemini (the only known human) voted to delete Vacuus. Would a human vote to delete a human? Well, yes, actually, if it was an attempt to throw us off.

"Shingo" said:
(I might have chat logs if anyone's interested)

Echo("Shingo has been suspecting Vacuus and he has some great reasons for such." + chr(10) + "I'll take that as a vote to lynch Vacuus.")
Voteforlynch("Vacuus")

interpreting input...

$say(by.Pete, "Ok, maybe Im easily influenced, but I might as well go with everybody else. I just hope youre not wrong...")
$vote(delete, Vacuus)

Ok, maybe Im easily influenced, but I might as well go with everybody else. I just hope youre not wrong...

Voted for deleting Vacuus.

"Pete" said:
Ok, maybe Im easily influenced, but I might as well go with everybody else. I just hope youre not wrong...

Voted for deleting Vacuus.

$ perl
MSDOS.emote("surprise");
MSDOS.echo("While I appreciate the support, that's a terrible reason to vote for somebody. You should at least give it thorough thought before casting your vote.");
__END__

$say(by.Pete, "Do you really think that I didnt thought about it? Because I did, and I also found Vacuus a bit too suspicious. Your argument just finished the process.")

Do you really think that I didnt thought about it? Because I did, and I also found Vacuus a bit too suspicious. Your argument just finished the process.

$ echo("Sorry, been a bit fixated on playing certain games.\n\nNow then, my suspicions lie on Murska and Fnukk, mostly because they voted on Anarion, who got killed the next night. Because of this, I place my vote on Fnukk.")