If we however start a new EEToEE thread, I think it should be a PLAIN universe in the start. Everyone have their empire/planet/country, with beneficials and negatives. Also, we can have four types of power: IMPERIAL, ECONOMIC, MILITARY, SCIENCE. There can be several sub types also, that the PC can make up it self.
We can delete the NPCs and let the story elvolve freely. There is no need for a premade universe.

Notices that Zombie and Mageking have rebuilded their armies in seconds.

"Pete" said:
No way. I saw this in old EETEE one time:

Notices that Zombie and Mageking have rebuilded their armies in seconds.

Not sure about persons, but it was something like this.

And I thing thats exacty that what is going to happen if we keep even the smallest piece of old new EETEE.

"Cejer" said:
We probably won't get a suitable thread of our own going for a while, so may I suggest a temporary thread using the Lords of Ether rule set? It's fairly well balanced, and would allow a quick start of a role-play thread while we think of how we would like our own rule system to work. I could set up a quick universe map without any hassle if everyone feels like this is a good idea.

As for the "Super fast growing Empires" syndrome, if we make fast construction techniques unavailable, then ships will take months or years of game time to produce. I really don't care if we have fast growing empires or not, so long as it's all within reason.

"Zombie" said:
How about we don't start with empires at all?!

Why does no one, other than me, even bring up that possibility?

"Zombie" said:
How about we don't start with empires at all?!

Why does no one, other than me, even bring up that possibility?

"Pete" said:
No way. I saw this in old EETEE one time:

"Old old EETEE" said:
Notices that Zombie and Mageking have rebuilded their armies in seconds.

Not sure about persons, but it was something like this.

And I thing thats exacty that what is going to happen if we keep even the smallest piece of old new EETEE.

"Pete" said:
No way. I saw this in old EETEE one time:

Notices that Zombie and Mageking have rebuilded their armies in seconds.

Not sure about persons, but it was something like this.

And I thing thats exacty that what is going to happen if we keep even the smallest piece of old new EETEE.

"Cejer" said:
I think we should, at a minimum, start in command of a taskforce (which are anywhere from 2-40 ships of varying sizes).

"Cejer" said:
We probably won't get a suitable thread of our own going for a while, so may I suggest a temporary thread using the Lords of Ether rule set? It's fairly well balanced, and would allow a quick start of a role-play thread while we think of how we would like our own rule system to work. I could set up a quick universe map without any hassle if everyone feels like this is a good idea.

As for the "Super fast growing Empires" syndrome, if we make fast construction techniques unavailable, then ships will take months or years of game time to produce. I really don't care if we have fast growing empires or not, so long as it's all within reason.

"Lords of Ether" said:
Ether

Ether is the key resource of Lords of Ether, hence the name of the game. Ether mines produce the amount listed in the Ether Production Category at the beginning of Ether every month.

So, what exactly is Ether? It’s a magical substance of low density but with great conductive properties, and when properly used can generate large amounts of energy. It permeates the universe slightly out of phase with normal matter though it can be detected by its interaction with light. However, it does take tangible physical form under certain conditions; usually interaction with large dense objects like planets or stars.

On planets it tends to gather underground in concentrated areas called Nodes, from which it emerges as a greenish gas, or, more rarely an ultra-dense hardened solid like a glowing emerald (an Ether Geode - very valuable). In its gaseous state it can also be occasionally found in small quantities on the surface layers of large planets like gas giants or even stars (if you’re daring). It can also be found in very rich pockets within nebulas, though the danger of passing through a nebula tends to prevent making harvesting operations there routine affairs. The most powerful mages and highest technologies can also tap hidden “Ley Lines” or “ZPE fluxes” that run across the universe just below our reality and draw Ether out of, what appears to the uninitiated, to be thin air.

Over the past few thousand years, such procedures and magics have tended to pool Ether in a system around those worlds inhabited by Ether using societies. Usually the Ether in the rest of the solar system is thin, dispersed and irregular, and harvesting it more work than is profitable. Some systems and worlds however retain untapped reserves, but most will have to seek new, fallow ground to acquire more.

This is the key point about Ether – unlike Industry, Wealth and Research, Ether Production cannot be increased by simply investing Wealth. New sources of Ether must be found and exploited.

Ether is the most important commodity. Most advanced societies normally ship large quantities of it around continually. These civilian networks are of no concern to the player. Mostly what will be the focus of players is moving Ether for military purposes. Usually the lower the tech level the more space this transporting takes. Here are some general examples:
Ether-specific mods:
Tanker +1 point and doubles carrying capacity, however the ship can only carry fuel, and cannot be used in any other role.

Pure Ether (available at Chem 2 or Transmog 1): 25,000 points of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether
Pure Ether is Ether in its gaseous state. It’s usually stored in sealed containers and can be difficult to transport.

Ethernol (available at Chem 3): 5,000 points of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether
The most common form of Ether, this is the gas mixed with a liquid solution and burned in various engines. It comes in various types and can power everything from cars to rockets.

Concentrated Ether (available at Transmog 3): 1,000 points of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether
Concentrated Ether is just that – Ether gas of extreme potency. Mages often carry small phials and glass spheres of Concentrated Ether to power their lesser spells.

Ether Cell (available at Phys 4): 1,000 points of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether
An Ether Cell is concentrated Ether in a battery like apparatus. It can be recharged from lesser forms of Ether and is a very stable method of continued power, as well as less bulky.

Etheric Fusion Catalyst (available at Chem 4): 1,000 points of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether
Etheric Fusion Catalysts drive the more advanced rocket propulsions. Where an Ether Cell puts out a steady stream of power, Catalysts are great for sudden, whopping great expenditures.

ZPE reactor (Available at Phys 5): 100 points of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether a month
The Zero Point Ether reactor taps into distant stocks of Ether and the space is only that taken up by the device itself. It is thought that originally this Ether could be taken from anywhere in the universe, but now with the concentration and polarization of Ether resources, the ZPE reactor can only draw on stocks, or raw supplies of Ether, that have been specifically “attuned” to a specific wavelength (a very technical and in depth process). However, this can be done irregardless of distance, and means the vessel needs carry nothing more than the reactor itself.

Etheric Anti-Matter (available at Chem 5): 100 points of Cargo Space
The space taken is actually by the storage and containment and reaction apparatus, the space taken by the actual matter is negligible. Each container can store as much as 100 points worth of Ether in a stable fashion.

Ether Geode (naturally occurring or Transmog 5): less than 1 point of Cargo Space per 1 point of Ether
Ether Geodes can range in size, but the smallest are no more than fist sized. They are prized for Etheric Fission reactors and magic Castings. 1 point of naturally occurring Ether in every 100 is in the form of an Ether Geode. Ether Geode power in Fission Reactors saves a great deal of space, allowing Tech level 3 and 4 ships so equipped (and even the more advanced TL 2 ships using it as ultra-pure Etherite Coal) to pack in an extra Added Capability. This doesn't work at TL5 as by then ZPE and EAM reactors are already as small or smaller than Etheric Fission Reactors. The downside of course is that if you run out of Ether Geodes your ships aren't going to be going anywhere.

Routes

However, not all Star Ways are equal. As well as varying in length, on some routes the flow of the Etheric Wind is faster. Travel on these “Blue Routes” is twice as fast as normal. These routes are usually well marked with various beacons, waypoints and markers suspended in the Ways by various means and operating through various functions.

There are also “Red Routes,” Those dangerous and difficult paths. Travel on one is usually half as fast as normal, but that is not the only peril – these Ways are often changeable and fluctuating, making navigation difficult and passage perilous. Accidents are more common on such routes.

Nebulas. Nebulas are the proverbial Dark Forests. There great Ether Winds sweep around aimlessly and massive clouds of star gasses drift in huge formations. Ships entering a Nebula can be lost for centuries if not careful. Which is, of course why so many try: There are rumoured to be great riches hidden inside Nebula. Certainly many strange things reside within, and few of them human born or made. . .

"Zombie" said:
Well, I would like to not give the EEToEE a full change here... I am not opposed to some of the things, but basing it off of another game is something I can not do. The EEToEE is meant to be unique.

"Zombie" said:
1) We appoint one person, or perhaps form some sort of council, to deal with complaints in regards to RP fairness/plausibility. Requirements include but are not limited to activeness, willingness to help, and good spelling/grammar.

"Zombie" said:
2) All matters are subject to arguments within reason.

"Zombie" said:
3) There are to be no definite stats in the EEToEE. The aim is for a highly believable RP, not some sort of game.

"Zombie" said:
4) Every 'player' of the EEToEE must acknowledge that they may be requested to redesign their character/empire if it is found to be unreasonable or unfair. In addition to this, 'players' agree that periodic resets may be, at times, necessary.

"Zombie" said:
5) 'Players' all have the option of starting with an empire or as a single character.

"Zombie" said:
5a) Empire 'players' will not be allowed a main character, even though they may have a preferred character. Preferred characters are highly subjectible to death, whereas main characters are able to thwart death if aforementioned thwarting is plausible. If a preferred character is destroyed, the empire 'player' is not eliminated and may chose a new preferred character, if they so wish. An empire 'player' is eliminated pending destruction of their central base.

"Zombie" said:
5b) Single character 'players' must start on/in a planet or orbital station and will not be allowed to posess more than one base. Single character 'players' are able to thwart death if aforementioned thwarting is plausible. A single character 'player' is eliminated pending destruction of their main character.

"Zombie" said:
6) Single character 'players' are allowed to exist within an empire 'player' controlled empire. The single character 'players' may seek whatever goals they wish, provided these goals are plausible. Empire 'players' may set up a sort of ranking system to allow single character 'players' in their employ to rise in ranks, power, and responsibility.

"Zombie" said:
7) Single character 'players' may have followers, either 'player' made or another single character 'player.'

"Zombie" said:
Creative roleplaying is a necessity here. You can not suceed all of the time and a single failure does not necessarily handicap you.

"Cejer" said:
Actually, in vary rare circumstances, someone can succeed all the time. Similarly, a crushing failure could handicap someone for a long time after the event.

"Cejer" said:
Do you live where people use English English or American English?

"Cejer" said:
Second, a question for everyone, when are you usually awake? For simplicity you should reply in monkkonon.net time.