"UberWaffe" said:

"Quanrian" said:
you do get what I mean about things not working very well in practice sometimes ? I mean it's always good to at least try them out

Quanrian, I'm taking this advice to heart. I will test the ideas to some extent (as far as possible with v0.1b) before posting them. I have already started reviewing some of the other ideas I have already posted. I have reviewed the EMP system. Where do I post my findings? (I have screenshots of the system at work.)

"Grim Reaper" said:
What you did is called double posting.

"Quanrian" said:
Please no pure rants about him releasing a new build though or I will nuke your posts without prejudice.

"UberWaffe" said:
(as far as possible with v0.1b)

"Quanrian" said:
I'm sure Zex can work with what you've done.

"ZeXLR8er!!" said:
I would really rather to be able to stick with just the power, shields and health bars, is there any way your ideas could be designed around that?

"UberWaffe" said:
Yes! I finally got the EMP system working! Zex, you will still have to see if you like it, of course, but I am pretty proud of getting it to work. Do I post the relevant scripts here or do I E-Mail them to you? It isn't a mass of scripts. Basically it is three or four script sections that repeat the whole time. (On each creature, weapon, etc.)

I have one final screenshot. It depicts a battle with the final EMP system in place. Enemies now turn blue when EMP'd.
Big EMP Battle - <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://img173.exs.cx/img173/8314/empbattle9db.jpg">http://img173.exs.cx/img173/8314/empbattle9db.jpg</a><!-- m -->

"eug1404" said:

"UberWaffe" said:
Yes! I finally got the EMP system working! Zex, you will still have to see if you like it, of course, but I am pretty proud of getting it to work. Do I post the relevant scripts here or do I E-Mail them to you? It isn't a mass of scripts. Basically it is three or four script sections that repeat the whole time. (On each creature, weapon, etc.)

I have one final screenshot. It depicts a battle with the final EMP system in place. Enemies now turn blue when EMP'd.
Big EMP Battle - <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://img173.exs.cx/img173/8314/empbattle9db.jpg">http://img173.exs.cx/img173/8314/empbattle9db.jpg</a><!-- m -->

Nice job there.

"Doogsy" said:
forceuser has done all wazzals graphics so you dont necessarily need a good graphics program.

"ZeXLR8er!!" said:
Well, I've sent it off to Ville, and he'll post it in this thread when he hosts it. Enjoy.

Bars.dat

Replace Temprature (Bar number 2) with the following code. If you don't have a temprature bar then add this and change all relevant identifiers.
Electronic Instability;//name
2;//identifier
0;//bar type,THIS MUST BE 0 = Normal type. Otherwise you too get disabled when you emp an enemy. (Temperature type not calculated seperately for seperate units.)
0;//parameter0
1;//visible (only applicable for player's bars)
0;//visible on enemies
1;//show number
3;//anchor point (0=left top, 1=right top, 2=left bottom, 3=right bottom)
-350;//location x, pixels from anchor point
-50;//location y, pixels from anchor point
bar.tga;//bar picture
none;//background picture
0;//background picture x offset
0;//background picture y offset
0;//background picture width
0;//background picture height
1;//height
80;//length in pixels for maximum (negative = bar increases to left)
0;//red color component for minimum
1.0;//green color component for minimum
0.2;//blue color component for minimum
0;//red color component for maximum
0.2;//green color component for maximum
1.0;//blue color component for maximum

Creatures.dat

This next piece of code must be pasted in all USER type creatures. (Like the Wolf IV in v0.1b). Disables the user when EMP above 75.

begin_timed_block
==={Any other timed events}===
250;//msec : EMP DISABLE SCRIPT
begin_conditions;
3;//condition
2.000000;//condition parameter0
75.000000;//condition parameter1
end_conditions;
begin_effects;
1;//effect number
500.000000;//parameter1
12.000000;//parameter2
0.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4
45;//effect number
-1.000000;//parameter1
500.000000;//parameter2
12.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4
end_effects;
==={Any other timed events}===
end_timed_block

The next pieces of script are for enemy creatures.
{Other Stuff}
0.6;//maximum movement speed. They get boosted by a timed event so this is in effect much higher
0.0;//minimum movement speed. They get boosted, in effect much higher
{Other Stuff}
0.40000;//turn speed. Tweaked a bit to act more normal with the boosters. Not really needed. 0.500000;//inertia level (acceleration/deceleration). Tweaked a bit to act more normal with the boosters. Not really needed.
{Other Stuff}
Here follows the core of the EMP system for the enemies. Timed events. First event 'stuns'(+disables weapons) an enemy if above 75 EMP. Can be adjusted for individual types of enemies.
Second: This is the conditional minimum speed of the creature. (This is what took so long.) Will need tweaking for different types of units. Effect 67, parameter 1.
Third: Decreases the EMP bar by 1 per sec. Can be tweaked for faster/slower recovery. begin_timed_block
250;//msec. EMP disable script. -1-
begin_conditions;
3;//condition
2.000000;//condition parameter0
75.000000;//condition parameter1
end_conditions;
begin_effects;
1;//effect number
500.000000;//parameter1
12.000000;//parameter2
0.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4
45;//effect number
-1.000000;//parameter1
500.000000;//parameter2
12.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4
end_effects;
25;//msec : AI MOVE / EMP STOP SCRIPT -2-
begin_conditions;
5;//condition
2.000000;//condition parameter0
75.000000;//condition parameter1
end_conditions;
begin_effects;
67;//effect number
0.075000;//parameter1
0.000000;//parameter2
0.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4
end_effects;
1000;//msec : EMP BAR AI DECREASE -3-
begin_conditions;
3;//condition
2.000000;//condition parameter0
0.000000;//condition parameter1
end_conditions;
begin_effects;
4;//effect number
-1.000000;//parameter1
1.000000;//parameter2
2.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4
end_effects;
end_timed_block

This must be added in the specialities section of the creature. This gives them the EMP bar.
emp bar;//description
0;//number
2.000000;//parameter0
-20.000000;//parameter1. Note: Do not set to zero. Notes state that a creature dies when ANY bar reaches zero. So this is a way to stop that from happening.
200.000000;//parameter2
0.000000;//parameter3

Player_races.dat

The following code should be added to add the EMP bar to the player.
EMP bar;//description
5;//specialty
0;//difficulty level
none;//message
2.000000;//parameter0
0.000000;//parameter1
200.000000;//parameter2
0.000000;//parameter3

The following drains the User's EMP bar by 1 per second.
drain EMP;//description
7;//specialty
0;//difficulty level
none;//message
2;//parameter0
0.00;//parameter1
2;//parameter2
-1;//parameter3

Weapons.dat

The following condition can be added to a weapon if the weapon is to shut down at an ealier stage than the creature. (Ex. Ion cannons can only fire if EMP is below 30.).
5;//condition
2.000000;//condition parameter0
30.00;//condition parameter1

EMP weapons can use effect 4 to increase the EMP bar. Example:
4;//effect number
85.000000;//parameter1
1.000000;//parameter2
2.000000;//parameter3
0.000000;//parameter4

"UberWaffe" said:
EDIT: If this post bothers anyone I will delete it if Zex has seen it and has no further use for it.

"Idiota" said:
The game crashes on m comp too... I don't know for sure if it is caused by the planet or the 2nd promotion...

"ForceUser" said:
The ship's "Turret firing". IMHO, the Turret firing of the ship is too powerful

Player reaches 50 Promotion;//name
  15;//identifier
  1;//run without calling (set to 0 if you use the script for example as a wield script)
  0;//call position, 0=player location, 1=mouse location
  0;//calling creature 0=player, 1=creature nearest to the mouse, 2=player controlled creature
  20;//run every n milliseconds
Orders, SIR!!;//message
    0;//message type, 0=quick message, 1=journal
  none;//sound, none for nothing
  0;//delay script for n seconds after conditions met
  1;//disabled after first use, 0=no, 1=yes
  begin_conditions;
  3;//condition                        promotion bar is over 50
      9.000000;//condition parameter0
      50.00000;//condition parameter1    
 6;//condition                         player is human
      1.000000;//condition parameter0
      0.00000;//condition parameter1  
end_conditions;
  begin_effects;
 10;//effect number                   Give bodyguards
      14.000000;//parameter1
      -1.000000;//parameter2
      -1.000000;//parameter3
      -1.000000;//parameter4 
end_effects;
Player reaches 50 Promotion;//name
  16;//identifier
  1;//run without calling (set to 0 if you use the script for example as a wield script)
  0;//call position, 0=player location, 1=mouse location
  0;//calling creature 0=player, 1=creature nearest to the mouse, 2=player controlled creature
  20;//run every n milliseconds
Orders, SIR!!;//message
    0;//message type, 0=quick message, 1=journal
  none;//sound, none for nothing
  0;//delay script for n seconds after conditions met
  1;//disabled after first use, 0=no, 1=yes
  begin_conditions;
  3;//condition                        promotion bar is over 50
      9.000000;//condition parameter0
      50.00000;//condition parameter1    
 6;//condition                         player is human
      1.000000;//condition parameter0
      0.00000;//condition parameter1  
end_conditions;
  begin_effects;
 10;//effect number                   Give bodyguards
      14.000000;//parameter1
      -1.000000;//parameter2
      -1.000000;//parameter3
      -1.000000;//parameter4 
end_effects;

"ZeXLR8er!!" said:
And it looks like no-one likes the new controls (are you sure you are playing on Relative mode? ) so I'll change it back.

"ZeXLR8er!!" said:
I'm glad you think it looks like jungle combat, cos thats what I was aiming for..